From Newsgroup: sci.physics.relativity

<athel.cb@gmail.com> wrote:

nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) posted:

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:

J. J. Lodder wrote:

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:

In my opinion the equation [E = m*c^2] is wrong.

Your opinions count for nothing.

[Something is wrong with either Thomas Heger's newsreader
(configuration) or yours. Above, the superscript 2 for the square was >> posted as "?". This is the 21st century; please use only up-to-date >> and properly configured newsreaders.]

This is just part of TH's (and yours)
general incompetence in math and phys.

LOL. I have a B Sc in Computer Science, Mathematics, Astronomy, and
soon in Physics, too.

From long ago no doubt.
FYI, real mathematicians and physicists understand basic TeX. .
(and TeX is fool-proof, not even you could waste it)
Your so-called degrees cannot be serious if you don't know about TeX.

Besides, who cares about a BSc? No higher degree? No research expeience?

And anyway, anyone who brags about some degree is a nitwit.

All those letters before or behind a name
should be reserved for obituaries,
(and perhaps not even then)

Jan

Jan

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From Newsgroup: sci.physics.relativity

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:

J. J. Lodder wrote:

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:

J. J. Lodder wrote:

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:

In my opinion the equation [E = m*c^2] is wrong.

Your opinions count for nothing.

[Something is wrong with either Thomas Heger's newsreader
(configuration) or yours. Above, the superscript 2 for the square was >>>> posted as "?". This is the 21st century; please use only up-to-date >>>> and properly configured newsreaders.]

This is just part of TH's (and yours)
general incompetence in math and phys.

LOL. I have a B Sc in Computer Science, Mathematics, Astronomy, and
soon in Physics, too.

From long ago no doubt.
FYI, real mathematicians and physicists understand basic TeX. .
(and TeX is fool-proof, not even you could waste it)
Your so-called degrees cannot be serious if you don't know about TeX.

I encourage you to search for me on the Web to test your assumptions.

Web != Usenet.

Math formulas on usenet should be rendered in ASCII,
and nothing but ASCII, using some kind of quasi-TeX.

LOL. Welcome to the 21st century!

FYI, Usenet is not from the 21st century.

That does not mean that we have to remain in the stone age in order to use it. In fact, it had been decided by the IETF long ago that that should not be so; therefore, by 2009, new standards for Network News had been
developed, agreed upon, and already implemented by server and user agent developers to facilitate that. You are simply out of touch, and if the
cause of the incompatibility is your newsreader (it *is*), it is not simply out of date and obsolete, but *non-compliant*, i.e. *broken*.

These 'improvements' are fundamentally flawed,
so they were not generally adopted.
Even now, after all those years,
you can still see the occasional mangled header.

(It is well-known in today's Usenet that MacSOUP is broken as it was never updated after 2016, and was buggy even back then.)

MacSoup was never broken.
Its author could not afford the time that would be required
to rewrite it for later versions of Mac OSX.

Any attempt at using non-ASCII symbology is an error.

No, it is not. Network News has been supporting non-ASCII encodings since >> the late 1990s. See also RFC 5536.

Unicode is the standard character set with electronic devices nowadays.

Usenet is not from nowadays.

See above.

See above.

Newsclients have nothing to do with this,

Wrong. You and your newsreader are hopelessly out of date.

Your use of Unicode for math on usenet
marks you as an incompetent amateur,

No, your ignorance and now (that you have been told) disregard of current network standards marks *you* as one:

<https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5536.html#section-2.3> (released in 2009)

And your ignoring "Followup-To: poster" indicates that you are trolling.

Score adjusted.

(arrogance noted)
You have no right to force others to send you email.

Jan
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From Newsgroup: sci.physics.relativity

J. J. Lodder wrote:

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:

J. J. Lodder wrote:

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:

J. J. Lodder wrote:

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:

In my opinion the equation [E = m*c^2] is wrong.

Your opinions count for nothing.

[Something is wrong with either Thomas Heger's newsreader
(configuration) or yours. Above, the superscript 2 for the square was >>>>>> posted as "?". This is the 21st century; please use only up-to-date >>>>>> and properly configured newsreaders.]

This is just part of TH's (and yours)
general incompetence in math and phys.

LOL. I have a B Sc in Computer Science, Mathematics, Astronomy, and
soon in Physics, too.

From long ago no doubt.
FYI, real mathematicians and physicists understand basic TeX. .
(and TeX is fool-proof, not even you could waste it)
Your so-called degrees cannot be serious if you don't know about TeX.

I encourage you to search for me on the Web to test your assumptions.

Web != Usenet.

You don't say!

If you had done what I suggested, you would have found out that, among other (La)TeX-related endeavors,

- I have written (La)TeX-like texts on Usenet many times before and continue
to do so (when more convenient);

- I have written a LaTeX 2e package for generating spacetime diagrams;

- I have improved a Personal Dictionary for Gboard with which one can
type LaTeX(-like) shortcuts on an Android-based device to produce
corresponding Unicode character( sequence)s;

- I have published several documents (scientific works) that were
generated using LaTeX, not least my first BSc thesis.

So your claiming that I, of all people, would not know about TeX, is
probably one of the most ridiculous claims that I will read this year --
and the year has just started.

But you are not even interested in the truth, are you?

Math formulas on usenet should be rendered in ASCII,
and nothing but ASCII, using some kind of quasi-TeX.

LOL. Welcome to the 21st century!

FYI, Usenet is not from the 21st century.

That does not mean that we have to remain in the stone age in order to use >> it. In fact, it had been decided by the IETF long ago that that should not >> be so; therefore, by 2009, new standards for Network News had been
developed, agreed upon, and already implemented by server and user agent
developers to facilitate that. You are simply out of touch, and if the
cause of the incompatibility is your newsreader (it *is*), it is not simply >> out of date and obsolete, but *non-compliant*, i.e. *broken*.

These 'improvements' are fundamentally flawed,
so they were not generally adopted.

You have no clue what you are talking about.

Even now, after all those years, you can still see the occasional mangled header.

Produced by a few people who are stuck in the past like you. People like
you are not the solution, they are the problem.

(It is well-known in today's Usenet that MacSOUP is broken as it was never >> updated after 2016, and was buggy even back then.)

MacSoup was never broken.

I encourage you to do more research to test your assumptions.

And your ignoring "Followup-To: poster" indicates that you are trolling.

Score adjusted.

(arrogance noted)
You have no right to force others to send you email.

*facepalm*
--
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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From Newsgroup: sci.physics.relativity


Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> posted:

J. J. Lodder wrote:

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:

J. J. Lodder wrote:

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:

In my opinion the equation [E = m*c^2] is wrong.

Your opinions count for nothing.

[Something is wrong with either Thomas Heger's newsreader
(configuration) or yours. Above, the superscript 2 for the square was >>>> posted as "?". This is the 21st century; please use only up-to-date >>>> and properly configured newsreaders.]

This is just part of TH's (and yours)
general incompetence in math and phys.

LOL. I have a B Sc in Computer Science, Mathematics, Astronomy, and soon in
Physics, too.

From long ago no doubt.
FYI, real mathematicians and physicists understand basic TeX. .
(and TeX is fool-proof, not even you could waste it)
Your so-called degrees cannot be serious if you don't know about TeX.

I encourage you to search for me on the Web to test your assumptions.

I just did, and I suspect that you may come to regret making that suggestion. Underwhelming puts it too weakly.

Math formulas on usenet should be rendered in ASCII,
and nothing but ASCII, using some kind of quasi-TeX.

LOL. Welcome to the 21st century!

FYI, Usenet is not from the 21st century.

That does not mean that we have to remain in the stone age in order to use it. In fact, it had been decided by the IETF long ago that that should not be so; therefore, by 2009, new standards for Network News had been
developed, agreed upon, and already implemented by server and user agent developers to facilitate that. You are simply out of touch, and if the
cause of the incompatibility is your newsreader (it *is*), it is not simply out of date and obsolete, but *non-compliant*, i.e. *broken*.

(It is well-known in today's Usenet that MacSOUP is broken as it was never updated after 2016, and was buggy even back then.)

Any attempt at using non-ASCII symbology is an error.

No, it is not. Network News has been supporting non-ASCII encodings since >> the late 1990s. See also RFC 5536.

Unicode is the standard character set with electronic devices nowadays.

Usenet is not from nowadays.

See above.

Newsclients have nothing to do with this,

Wrong. You and your newsreader are hopelessly out of date.

Your use of Unicode for math on usenet
marks you as an incompetent amateur,

No, your ignorance and now (that you have been told) disregard of current network standards marks *you* as one:

<https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5536.html#section-2.3> (released in 2009)

And your ignoring "Followup-To: poster" indicates that you are trolling.

Score adjusted.

--
athel
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From Newsgroup: sci.physics.relativity

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
[F'To: diversion ignored. Get it through your thick head
that I will discuss matters in sci.physics.relativity,
and nowhere else}
[falsified Subject: Header corrected]

-YOU- have a problem with MacSoup.
It is YOUR problem, and there is no point in bothering others with it.
You should't spread YOUR problems amongst others,
who have nothing to do with it.

[X-Post & F'up2 <news:news.software.readers>]

J. J. Lodder wrote:

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:

J. J. Lodder wrote:

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:

J. J. Lodder wrote:

Math formulas on usenet should be rendered in ASCII, and nothing
but ASCII, using some kind of quasi-TeX.

LOL. Welcome to the 21st century!

FYI, Usenet is not from the 21st century.

That does not mean that we have to remain in the stone age in order to
use it. In fact, it had been decided by the IETF long ago that that
should not be so; therefore, by 2009, new standards for Network News
had been developed, agreed upon, and already implemented by server and
user agent developers to facilitate that. You are simply out of
touch, and if the cause of the incompatibility is your newsreader (it
*is*), it is not simply out of date and obsolete, but *non-compliant*,
i.e. *broken*.

These 'improvements' are fundamentally flawed, so they were not
generally adopted.

False.

Even now, after all those years, you can still see the occasional
mangled header.

By people like you who are using *broken* software.

Nope. Once a thread is broken it remains broken,
further on in the thread, whatever newsclient is used.

(It is well-known in today's Usenet that MacSOUP is broken as it was
never updated after 2016, and was buggy even back then.)

MacSoup was never broken. Its author could not afford the time that
would be required to rewrite it for later versions of Mac OSX.

JFTR:

,-<http://www.haller-berlin.de/macsoup/>
|
| MacSOUP
|
| MacSOUP was an NNTP newsreader for Mac that I developed in the nineties.
| It is obsolete and no longer available.
|
| Stefan Haller
| Berlin, Germany
| <stefan@haller-berlin.de>

Linked to from <https://usenet-abc.de/wiki/Team/MacSOUP>, which also
explains the flaws of MacSOUP, and the hoops that one has to to jump through for it to conform to some (not all) basic NetNews standards (found with a Google Web search for "MacSOUP broken").

Reading never was your strongest point, eh?
Stefan Haller says, correctly, that MacSoup is *obsolete*.
(FYI, it is 32-bits, so it can't run under more recent OSX versions)

There is nothing wrong with it when running under a compatible OSX.
It is not broken.
(it can no doubt be improved, but so can all software)

FYI, some people keep a compatible Mac for no other reason than to be
able to run MacSoup, (and some other 32-bit things)

Jan



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